Why Won’t Forumists Blog? - Pourquoi Les Forumistes Ne Bloguent Pas?
Pourquoi les forumistes ne bloguent-ils pas?
ai-je demandé a Pissoa un dimanche matin a Montréal et après-modi a Johannesburgh (la veinarde).En 2 clicks elle m'envoit sur le blog d'Hery-the-boss* qui avait déja posé cette question :Inona no misakana anao tsy hi-blaogy? (qu'est-ce qui vous empêche de bloguer?). En une simple phrase DotMG lui répondit : parce que personne ne me lirait. BAM! Et voila! Je suis totalement au diapason avec cette affirmation (et peut-être me plaindre un peu) car nous avons un vrai problème au niveau du manque de commentateurs aux FBC avec des gamins tellement motivés qu'ils publient parfois deux fois par semaine.
La plus grande motivation derrière la création d'un blog est finalement le désir de se faire lire et de recevoir en retour des annotations sur les récits qui parfois nécessitent temps et énergie. Et surtout si vous êtes basé a Majunga, vous pourrez y rajouter les 40 frustrantes minutes pour charger une seule image en ligne. Dans tous les cas, le plus grand souci est d'attirer l'attention de la communauté. Quand on a soumis l'idée de réunir tous les fils RSS des blogs Malagasy sans aucune distinction de races et de langues sur Malagasy Miray, l'idée derrière fut de donner un peu plus de visibilité a chacun et de créer des ponts entre les cultures (créoles ou nordiques), ce que les forums ne font pas vraiment. Ces voeux pieux évidemment sont très durs a tenir rien qu'en prenant pour exemple la communauté malgache. La plupart rédigeant en malgache ou en français et occultant la langue du web dans leur mission de promouvoir note culture, allez un petit effort, on blogue un tipeu en anglais please.
Mais qu'est-ce que les forums ont de plus que les blogs? Un peu plus de réponses a la question "comment-designer-un-logo-pour-le-barcamp". Mais il y a tellement de catégories tellement bien classifiés que la plupart du temps un peu de spamming pourrait vous faire faire excommunier par le très méchant moderateur. Et dieu si sait si je ne le hais point celui-la. Les blogs sont peut-être un peu moins pratique pour allumer le feu des débats. Mais si comme moi et la dizaine de généreux bloggers avec un grand coeur, vous aurez déja maîtrisé l'art de polémiquer dans la section commentaire des blogs. Ceux-ci laissent quand même un peu plus de champs a l'Expression individuelle et nous permettent d'illustrer celle-ci par tellement de médias tels que les vidéos et les podcasts. Hery nous a publié un article sur le Social Networking et ses limites. Et j'aurais aimé que vous sachiez lire le malgache pour comprendre le comportement virtuel malgache face a une plus grande audience. Certains iraient se laisser penser que cela s'assimile a du Social Marketing qui a pour objectif de manipuler l'audience vers un projet-produit particulier.Notez mes efforts pour vous introduire le Social media dans les règles de l'art et avec une certaine emphase sur ce que les organisations a but non lucrative peuvent y gagner.
Les Forums sont très populaires chez les internautes malgaches, sociabiliser tout en étant profondément engagé dans sa communauté est une de leur principale motivation d'y rester et de ne pas vouloir quitter cet abri. J'aimerais aussi parler de mes petites appréhensions par raport aux usagers des forums. Nous y trouvons en eux des sources plus crédibles lors des crises politiques que sur les médias traditionnels qui sont pour la plupart des outils pour le gouvernement ou l'opposition pour créer psychose ou tout simplement manipuler l'actualité. Mashada a été un réceptacle très profitable durant la crise qui a parcouru le kenya en décebre 2007. Mais le cyber-activisme interessé des expatriés m'écoeure tout particulièrement. Le fossé technologique (due principalement a la différence de connectivité) empêche d'utiliser le web autrement que pour ses fonctions basiques (mail, info) de Madagascar ce qui laissele champs libre aux élucubrations de la diaspora.Celle-ci ayant pris la place de "représentante" de l'opinion malgache comme lors de la crise de 2002. D'ailleurs avons-nousdes bloggers poitiques ? ou bien contentons-nous encore de poursuivre le tabou et de se défouler dans la section commentaire?
Why won't forumists blog?
I asked Pissoa on a sunday morning in Montreal and afternoon in Johannesburg (guess who is the luckiest). In 2 clicks she sent me to Hery-the-boss* blog post about the same topic : Inona no misakana anao tsy hi-blaogy? (what is keeping you from blogging?). In one simple sentence DotMG made the sincerest answer : because nobody would read me. BAM! There you go ! I can totally rely to this declaration (and vent a little) since we're struggling to get commentors on Foko Blogs even with the kids posting more than twice a week.
Because the main motivation to start a blog is to share and receive feedback on the stories you spend times and energy to publish. And if you are based in Majunga, you can add the very frustrating 40-minute unique picture loading. In both cases, I think the biggest obstacle is getting a community's interest. When submitting the idea of reuniting all the Malagasy bloggers RSS feeds on a common page at Malagasy Miray weither they were based in Alaska or writing in fluent Creole,the main idea behind this was to give more visibilty and to bridge between cultures (even if we are all deeply in love with the island) what forums fail to do. These pious wishes have their limitations when you take the Malagasy communities for exemple. Most of the users write in Malagasy and French making the concept of "promoting our culture" very hard to realize with english ruling the web.
What do forums have that blogs don't? More chances to find answers to the question "how-to-vectorize-a-beautiful-barcamp-logo". But there are too many categories so stricly classified you sometimes get excommunicate for a simple spamming (a lot I admit). And maybe I am the only one but : I sooo hate the moderator dude ! What blogs don't have, even if there are multiple authors, is the variety of topics and the easiness to start debates. But if you are like me and the dizain of very generous bloggers I know well, you already mastered the power of commenting.What blog offers is the power to express yourself and illustrate your ideas and projects by very simple tools such as videos, podcasts,etc.Hery (again) just posted a very interesting post on Social Networks and asking (again) but its limits. At this point I wish you can read Malagasy to get Malagasy feelings on…. well…expression yourself on a wider audience. He warns about the tendencies to turn into Social Marketing when manipulating your audience to get their attention for a product or a great cause.(Maybe you've noticed my posts to introduce social media and the wonders non-profits can benefit from it in french por favor).
Forums of course are very popular among Malagasy internet users and networking with the desire to stay commited to this community is one of the reason forumists find hard time to leave this haven. And finally I have to admit my little scares of forum users. When there are social and political crisis, we always fetch the latest news on sites like Mashada where everyone has done a tremendous job covering the Kenyan crisis and filling the void the governement instated black-out has put on mainstream media. We all know about wanadoo (now moov.mg) during the 2002 Malagasy post-election crisis and the "cyber-activism" of the expatriates and well…the diaspora. This also brings us to the "digital divide" echues when connecitivity in Madagascar is still very hard to get and users only afford to connect for mails and …read forums. Again a lack of support on the commeting sections can very very very easily discourage a true activist even with tri-lingual capacities to share his perception of the society.
I hate to tell this but today I perceive forums as instruments for political propaganda more than a space of cultural, social and knowledge sharing. By the way do we have political bloggers ? or is this topic still very much banned on the post title and very discussed on the commenting section?
*Hery is the creator of the Serasera network. A community of more than 20 000 bloggers based in Madagascar but also in different parts of the world. Their socialization and conviviality are the strengh of the Namana Serasera when their members easily bond and plan outdoor activities such as trips (Roma, Majunga…) and also tree planting or fundraisings (for Infancy for example).










In a forum, when you post a topic, you may be assured that a number of people will read your post very soon, because articles are centralized in one place. Starting a blog, on the other hand, is a bit different. You may not expect too much feedbacks for the first months, as only a few people will see your blog. But it can be assured that if you are persevering, the number of your readers will grow week after week.
When you teach new bloggers at Foko, do you also teach them how to improve a blog’s visibility? I’m still sure that the best way to get people read (and comment) on your blog is to get reading other’s blog and post pertinent comments on theirs. Other tips are: stay mainly on one topic (hkambora is talking mainly about malagasy supernatural culture, be sure that after some months, he’ll get more incoming link from search engines, and people seeing his site from Google will more likely to be interested in his main topic). Emphasize the word mainly. You can still post a totally different subject from time to time. For my case, I set up 3 different blogs, on one I post about my works and job life, on another something not serious like jokes, boring stories …
During the first months, disable comment moderation, let people write comments and see their comments published, I was frustrating when I first commented on Diana’s blog, and after a week, my comments didn’t yet show. (My comments don’t still show until now).
Thank you Smiley’s dad (I only know you by this name from last blogathon and you have to get used to it since she’s going to be very famous)
We had a HUGE lets say MEGA problem during the first FBC when the connection went off so many times we just went through the basics steps of : open your blog, put down your post and go home. How amazingly fast they made progress from these harsh times and how inspired from each other they are. We know about the cross commenting actions (which they are already doing between each other which brings a strong sense of community right? lesson learned) but we knoe we have to put extra time, ur money, on more cross-commenting. It is also perceived by the bloggers who put comments on FBC that the kids are irrespectful for not answering to their questions but…when they connect only once a week…
there you go she is venting (again) ….
Hopefully when they return to school, ur, blogging classes, we will try to get all these tips together and make some drastic changes. There is also a hidden cause : the web illetiracy. BAM ! When kida are used more oftenly to IM and mails, you have no idea I had it is to re-learn all the simple but useful steps of internet (load files on mails, NEVER answer to trolls, etc.)
Hkambora is a perfect exemple of the cultural blogger Malagasy need on internet, this student is developing skills on posting very spontaneously. Hopefully when 2nd and 3rd courses are done, they will be fully able to post pictures and videos. And there we could have let’s say : a complete set of blogging!
but there is sooooo much work to do !!
Tell me if you’re going on vacation somewhere between Majunga and Tamatave, we sure need advices from a forumist turned blogger turned future superstar manager!
see ya
So here you go finally lol
hi hi aleo aloha haka quick belated lunch kely vao miverina eto e lol (yeeep, vive la spammeuse et le spamming
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(Oouf, I’m back lol)
Beside the lack of readers/comments etc to which I willfully agree, I think blogging is much more demanding than participating in a forum (or even many forums). It involves more responsibilities, requires more time and expects more creativity.
I am not saying that forumists are not responsible etc. I am just trying to point out that blogging requires more of all that. We can for example very easily find ardent forumists who almost never started a topic etc … while the very minimum requirement of blogging is to have something to talk about and take the initiative to actually post it
(ouf you are)
Hey you’re bringing out another question ( i would never thought about bc you know I’m not a brainy like sasany :P) : What do you have in mind when you blog? Do you want to teach, share, joke around, sermonize, rant…
I know from experience that most of the bloggers (aprt of the FBC of course) are very serious about this blogging stuff. let’s take purple for example. She is scared sh***of trolls especially the simp one, she wished she could blog like the Thesaurus or Wikipedia (are they real people), she will never become a writer (bc she simply sucks at writing), and so on.
I know you have personal reasons to blog since poems are not allowed at Maths School (are there schools for Maths, for realz?)
there’s enough material here for a university student researching about online communities
Joking apart, I think forumist like participating into forum. I mean, most of the time, on a forum you still have a little (justified?) confidence that nonetheless you are still an anonymous lambda guy with a nickname. While if you consider blogging, you have to make a stand, to reveal some personal thoughts/experiences. Yet you have to do some research in order to give more value to your wannabe serious post.
I personnaly don’t consider going from a forumist status to a blogger status as a natural extension as thise are different state of mind: on forums, IMHO, you react to a topic, while blogging requires more sharing.
Ah, +1 to S@ve our Sm: )e
Jogany … pfff who says it has anything to do with brain lol. Do I need to remind you that I used to be a forumist … and when I said there are forumists who almost never started a (forum) topic, I was referring to myself - and some fellow fervent forumists (of course) lool. But the fact that I blog for “personal” reasons I guess makes it easier for me.
(Yes there are school for maths for real … and there is one in my dreams that hopefully will stop being a dream in the next decadeS - notice the S at the end ha ha ha )
Sunday morning I received a mail from this kool forumist : “hey I like your pic and your name (Jogany) do you think we can correspond? please give me your mail I want to know you better”.
Of course I took a wonderful 12 minutes of my very busy sunday schedule to tell him or her about blogging and citizen media. I also added that for me corresponding must implies : business or foko or news from relatives (or unhappy secret admirer) or crazy mailing from zazavavy gals. Of course he or her felt a bit lost …I should have recommended twitter….
Best. Diagram. Ever. (about web 2.0at least ) very nice find.
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